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Top 100 v1.17 Tony Karrer

Top 100 v1.17 Tony Karrer

By John Sumser

The Landscape

Currently, HR is built on three legs, Transactional, Learning and Development (L&D) and Acquisition. Every HR Department is a unique blend of the three pieces. Some companies choose to primarily develop talent (their acquisition functions are always a little less sophisticated because they focus on raw potentials). Some are acquisition-centric, buying the best available talent for the job (with correspondingly underdeveloped Learning and Development functions). Some are admin-centric (though this group is getting smaller).

It’s worth noting that a fourth “leg” is emerging with a focus on Analytics, process audits and specifications. The “HR as a predictive auditing function” is in it’s earliest years. It’s the component to watch. But, for the meantime, the three legged stool of Admin, Acquisition and Development is the center of the show.

In the old days (before it became cool to want a ’seat at the table’), the admin process was at the heart of HR. Getting payroll out on time, running benefits smoothly and generally keeping a lid on compliance and regulation was how the game worked. The cowboys lived in Recruiting and the professors lived in Training.If you wanted to run an HR shop, you had to pay your dues as a Generalist.

A decade ago, people from L&D or Acquisition never had a career path. The VP of HR was either an external appointment or a battle ax from the Comp and Benefits group. That’s all changed.

Today, leadership is going to emerge from either L&D or Recruiting depending on the organization’s primary orientation. The policies that follow from the leadership choice really define a department’s behavior. The admin players are the ones without a career track.

The difference between a Learning shop and an acquisition shop involves the way people think about investing. In Recruiting-centric places, a premium is placed on having the right player at the right moment. The underlying assumption is that all of the required training and development happens before the candidate joins the organization. She is, in other words, “qualified”.

In a development shop, requirements for new players are a little fuzzier. The company is going to invest in new people to teach them the culture and the firm’s unique methods. Fit is vastly more important than perfect adherence to position requirements.

One of the reasons it’s so hard to get software to generalize in any of the HR functions is that the craft is practiced differently by region, by industry and by the prioritization placed on the legs of the stool. Meanwhile, talented teams throw themselves against deep technical problems on the assumption that HR is practiced in the same way in all or most organizations. This single assumption is responsible for huge amounts of miscommunication.

Like most of the innovators I’ve talked to for the Top 100 Project, Dr. Tony Karrer is uncomfortable being described as a member of the HR community. He and his company, TechEmpower, develop software for the performance learning environment (sales training, operational information systems).

Initially, I got to know Tony as the spearhead of the HRTechCentral project. Tony, whose voluminous output includes amazingly deep content on learning and performance, is experimenting with content aggregation and distribution. HRTechCentral is an attempt to find and categorize strong material form the HRTech spectrum. It’s worth a peek.

Like Dan Hilbert, Karrer believes that real optimization of an organization’s performance involves the measurement and improvement of the human element. He imagines an emerging future of increasingly fragmented jobs. In that scenario, every worker has to become a self-serve learner.

Karrer works in the world of massive data. He and his team are building solutions that focus in making the right information available at the right time. His operations are at the very fringes of the HR universe. That’s where real technical innovation has to happen in our industry.

That’s partly because, in spite of the fact that we’re talking about influence in HR, HR has precious little influence in the organization. When I mention that I work in and with HR, people tend to back away. The entire profession has that problem. It could use a good PR firm.

For serious players like Dr. Karrer, HR has some of the pieces but not all of the oomph. In development organizations where learning is the competitive edge, Karrer and Co are able to build interesting systems that turbo charge performance without much reliance on acquisition. So, he works with the human element, but at a distance form the mainstream of HR-Recruiting. In his world, not all of the Learning function should be in HR. It is more effective, when its tied directly to performance consequence.

The reason Karrer is being added to the Top Influencers list is simple. When business leaders imagine what great HR should be, they are more likely to mention Tony Karrer than the more typical HR-centric player. Karrer’s influence is broad because he thinks well beyond conventional boundaries.


John Sumser is the founder and CEO of TwoColorHat, a company specializing in market strategy for HR – Recruiting Vendors. You can keep up with his other stuff at johnsumser.com. Follow the rest of the Top 100 Influencers project.

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Top 100 v1.15 Doug Berg

By John Sumser

Part of the folklore of innovation is the notion that new ideas emerge in a blinding flash of insight. The “Eureka” moment is a Hollywood picture of things. The “discovery” of new concepts is, most often, the result of long years of hard work.

The Web was built on a history of hypertext languages over 20 years. The light bulb was the conclusion of tests of thousands of filament materials. For most commercialised ideas, the “inventor” has to be deeply immersed in the operating details of the thing under consideration.

Our world, the Recruiting & HR space is not the most likely place to find innovation. The relentless emphasis on so called “best practices” builds a culture of imitation. Beyond the borders of this tiny universe, people look beyond the methods of others to find real competitive advantage. It’s simply less likely here.

Even so, amazing things spring from our ranks.

There is no better testing ground for search engine technologies. Recruiters and HR pros have deep needs for rapid access to data. It’s not surprising that search technology is routinely tested and perfected here.

Anything that amplifies or accelerates communication has a ready market in the HR – Recruiting world. When companies acquire talent for competitive purposes (not all of them do), speed is the critical element. We gobble up things that promise an increase in speed.

These days, one problem makes all of the others pale by comparison. Figuring out how to reach potential employees with the right message while integrating that data in the Applicant Tracking System is the toughest data integration problem in the enterprise.

Potential employees come from a variety of sources, digital, analog, referral, vendor generated. Causing all of that information to flow through a single interface with accurate performance measurement is the holy grail. The daunting factors include 50,000 job boards, 450 applicant tracking systems, an infinite array of meanings for referral programs, major differences in the way that companies recruit, differing employment brand philosophies and complex organizational variation are responsible for a great deal of head scratching.

Jobs2Web is a Minneapolis based firm that attempts to crack this nut. Led by serial entrepreneur Doug Berg (Founder and Chief Innovation Officer), J2W offers clients a basket of services that range from site development and SEO/SEM to tight coupling with the customer’s Applicant Tracking System. Berg says “we knew where the problem was. By working on it in a ton of settings, we are really learning about the next layer of innovation.”

Berg is perfect for the job. In his early career, he was the technology guy for a Theater and arts company. Then, he walked on fire with Tony Robbins. Almost overnight, he went from Tech guy to headhunter, opening his own firm and making tons of recruiting bucks for seven or eight years.

In his first online entrepreneurial gig, Berg founded Techies.com, a major player in the dot com er. Techies imploded in the wake of 911. When Berg finally returned to the space it was with the more tightly focused Jobs2Web.

Jobs2Web is a Recruitment marketing platform. No user training is required. Everything is measured. It includes RSS, social software and extensions. The systems ties directly into the ATS while integrating tightly with various sourcing tools and services.

Berg says “I’m building a nest of solutions, not a one size fits all product. Customers are free to join us at the level of their capability and desire.”

The idea that this problem needs to be solved is not new. Berg is leading a team to tackle it by learning about the nuances of various approaches to recruiting. What’s different about his approach is that he doesn’t start from the premise that recruiting and HR are generalizable. He clearly believes that each customer has a unique problem set.

The reason Berg is so influential is a combination of temperament and work ethic. Each new challenge helps Doug figure out the real meaning and breadth of Jobs2Web. As a result, he is full of questions and wants answers from anyone who might give them.

Doug Berg’s form of influence involves really listening to customers and tailoring solutions to their needs while building a tool capable of delivering that result and all of the others. Besides all of that, Berg is personable and easy to work with.

Sometimes, being easy to be with is the essence of influence.


John Sumser is the founder and CEO of TwoColorHat, a company specializing in market strategy for HR – Recruiting Vendors. You can keep up with his other stuff at johnsumser.com. Follow the rest of the Top 100 Influencers project.

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Top 100 v1.16 Allan Schweyer

By John Sumser

Some kinds of influence involve creating the disposition for a deal. There are any number of people who excel in the art of shaping the language and the debate, The terms Talent Management and Human Capital are both examples of the work of people who shape language.

There are a few institution builders.

These folks straddle the line between academia and commercial enterprise, largely because there is no formal academic discipline for HR-Recruiting. Training organizations that take on aspects of the academic world, like testing and certification, are the first signs of a maturing profession. The future of the Human Capital Professions is going to depend on organizations the design and deliver credibility.

The Human Capital Institute has amassed the largest body of research and data on HR-Recruiting topics in the world. The operation has four aspects: online information, education, research and events. For the past five and a half years, Allan Schweyer has been on HCI’s board and operated as the Executive Director and VP of Research.

Trained as a labor economist, Allan came straight out of school into the employment scene. He worked for the canadian government doing labor market research.In an extremely interesting process, he built an early job board as a part of the government job. In Canada, the government is unwilling to compete with private industry so the job board was ultimately sold.

He’s been in the HR arena for a solid 20 years now.

The thing about deep influence is that it takes a combination of time in grade, a network and an institutional base of some sort. The Human Capital Institute gives Schweyer the foundation for amazing things.

Being strategic means “skating to where the puck is going to be. HCI, under Schweyer’s guidance moves swiftly to incorporate new ideas into its core. Built on the notion that Human Capital Managers should be strategic, HCI trains and certifies hundreds of HR professionals in the fundamentals of strategic engagement.

Schweyer has one of those seats that gives you a comprehensive view. HCI plans to deliver twelve major research studies and a 2 day conference with each over the coming year. This puts Allan into the thick of the evolution of the discipline.

Over time, we’ll look a little more closely at the institutions like HCI that help shape the industry’s self concept. There are a handful of senior executives like Schweyer whose job is designed to influence the shape of things. In Allan’s case, the name of the organization tells the whole story. From the gitgo, they did not want to be just another HR association.


John Sumser is the founder and CEO of TwoColorHat, a company specializing in market strategy for HR – Recruiting Vendors. You can keep up with his other stuff at johnsumser.com. Follow the rest of the Top 100 Influencers project.

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